Hunting

Subject: Hunting Thu Sep 01, 2011 2:47 pm

For all of you who despise hunting, this is your chance to directly try and tell me it's doing more harm than good. Yeah, that's the nice way of saying BRING IT.

Subject: Re: Hunting Thu Sep 01, 2011 3:34 pm

I don't despise hunting, nor do I encourage it.

What do

Subject: Re: Hunting Thu Sep 01, 2011 3:59 pm

I respect that, but at the same time I warn you to not be encouraged by those who do not know the reality of hunting. AKA PETA.

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Subject: Re: Hunting Thu Sep 01, 2011 4:46 pm

Killing innocent creatures for fun?

Subject: Re: Hunting Thu Sep 01, 2011 4:58 pm

Not only fun. Food. Realize that if our ancestors hadn't hunted "innocent" creatures (more on that in a bit) we wouldn't be here right now. And don't retort that we don't have to hunt now. We do for biological reasons. The Earth was a much better place 25000 years ago. Part of that is due to the fact that ancient people hunted.

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Subject: Re: Hunting Thu Sep 01, 2011 5:49 pm

I had no idea you eat what you kill. That's fine. That's why they're on earth.. I'm against people doing it just for fun.

Subject: Re: Hunting Thu Sep 01, 2011 7:14 pm

Tristan wrote:

That's why they're on earth..

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Subject: Re: Hunting Thu Sep 01, 2011 9:44 pm

170 AVG wrote:

For all of you who despise hunting, this is your chance to directly try and tell me it's doing more harm than good. Yeah, that's the nice way of saying BRING IT.

I don't see how you are going to legitimately ask for a reason how hunting which is literally intentional HARMING of animals is harmful.

Subject: Re: Hunting Fri Sep 02, 2011 8:00 am

Tristan wrote:

I had no idea you eat what you kill. That's fine. That's why they're on earth.. I'm against people doing it just for fun.

I've hunted before, but I wouldn't have hunted if I didn't use the animals. I'm not that cruel.

Zebras, Zebras Everywhere!

Subject: Re: Hunting Fri Sep 02, 2011 9:49 am

Winkley wrote:

I don't despise hunting, nor do I encourage it.

What do

Subject: Re: Hunting Fri Sep 02, 2011 12:43 pm

170 AVG wrote:

The Earth was a much better place 25000 years ago. Part of that is due to the fact that ancient people hunted.

What the hell are you talking about? the Neanderthal man had a huge lack of vitamin D, arthritis, and scoliosis, he probably died at around age 25.

Subject: Re: Hunting Fri Sep 02, 2011 1:03 pm

Hunting is bad. Yes. It is, why? Because there is enough food already in our stores. About 5000 years we have switched from hunting to farming, and that has had a reason. It is because hunting is prehistoric, in the past we HAD to hunt to survive. That's why people/animals hunt(ed), because there was no other way (blursong). Today, there are plenty of different ways, so try to get the most out of those, instead of the killing of innocent creatures. Even though I despite saying it, because I love animals (i fuck animals) and see humans as no more than "just" animals, I have to say the following: we live in 2011. Today, we stand above all other animals, even though biolically we're still animals, we are actually not animals anymore, our brain is so well developed that we don't have to hunt, escape from hunters, etc. anymore. We have the ability to build walls to protect ourselfs, we have the ability to comminucate, the ability to have farms, the ability to do research, we are so well developed that we don't have to hunt anymore. Hunting is fucking prehistoric. We stand above all other animals that have to hunt to survive. If you hunt, you're a fucking retarded, prehistoric animal. Is that what you are, Ein? I don't think so, you have a well, actually above-average, functioning brain, so use it and stop fucking hunting.

Now I'm going to eat my organic meat, that comes from a farm. Like it should, in 2011.

Subject: Re: Hunting Fri Sep 02, 2011 2:06 pm

Tristan wrote:

I had no idea you eat what you kill. That's fine. That's why they're on earth.. I'm against people doing it just for fun.

Yeah. There has never been an animal I have shot that I have not taken some part in eating. And if I don't eat it. my dad does. So it all goes to good use. And I'm also in agreeance with disliking people who do it for fun. It's disrespectful to those of us who do eat what we kill, and it shines a bad light on hunting as a whole.

Lucky Thirteen wrote:

Tristan wrote:

That's why they're on earth..

+ ONE

Yup.

Victoria wrote:

170 AVG wrote:

For all of you who despise hunting, this is your chance to directly try and tell me it's doing more harm than good. Yeah, that's the nice way of saying BRING IT.

I don't see how you are going to legitimately ask for a reason how hunting which is literally intentional HARMING of animals is harmful.

If harming the animals is all you can think about when it comes to hunting...that's just sad. Open your mind, think about the other effects of it.

Winkley wrote:

Tristan wrote:

I had no idea you eat what you kill. That's fine. That's why they're on earth.. I'm against people doing it just for fun.

I've hunted before, but I wouldn't have hunted if I didn't use the animals. I'm not that cruel.

Zebras, Zebras Everywhere!

THERE YOU GO. THANK YOU WINKO.

Syntax Error wrote:

Winkley wrote:

I don't despise hunting, nor do I encourage it.

What do

CAPS LOCK wrote:

170 AVG wrote:

The Earth was a much better place 25000 years ago. Part of that is due to the fact that ancient people hunted.

What the hell are you talking about? the Neanderthal man had a huge lack of vitamin D, arthritis, and scoliosis, he probably died at around age 25.

Yeah, but guess what? He didn't commit crimes, he didn't harm the environment, etc. In the hunter-gatherer society of 25k years ago+, the world was better because we didn't have to process all the food we do now. We ate naturally.

Niels wrote:

Hunting is bad. Yes. It is, why? Because there is enough food already in our stores. About 5000 years we have switched from hunting to farming, and that has had a reason. It is because hunting is prehistoric, in the past we HAD to hunt to survive. That's why people/animals hunt(ed), because there was no other way (blursong). Today, there are plenty of different ways, so try to get the most out of those, instead of the killing of innocent creatures. Even though I despite saying it, because I love animals (i fuck animals) and see humans as no more than "just" animals, I have to say the following: we live in 2011. Today, we stand above all other animals, even though biolically we're still animals, we are actually not animals anymore, our brain is so well developed that we don't have to hunt, escape from hunters, etc. anymore. We have the ability to build walls to protect ourselfs, we have the ability to comminucate, the ability to have farms, the ability to do research, we are so well developed that we don't have to hunt anymore. Hunting is fucking prehistoric. We stand above all other animals that have to hunt to survive. If you hunt, you're a fucking retarded, prehistoric animal. Is that what you are, Ein? I don't think so, you have a well, actually above-average, functioning brain, so use it and stop fucking hunting.

Now I'm going to eat my organic meat, that comes from a farm. Like it should, in 2011.

Here we go. You hammered the primer on the shell.

How do you think the chicken and pork in the store GETS there? It doesn't commit suicide. Someone had to kill it. Just because it wasn't you doesn't mean it didn't die somehow. If you knew how lamb was killed, you'd never eat it again.

And yeah, we carry down part of the tradition from original mankind. It's in our DNA still. Well, SOME of our DNA. Those of us who have ancestors who came from West Virginia in the 1930s and had to hunt to fucking survive.

And once again, if all you can think about is hurting the animal, give me a break. Once again, consider where that chicken you're having for dinner came from. Meat that comes from a farm was killed. Hunting is killing. What's the fucking difference besides the fact that hunting is just a slight bit harder than chopping off a chicken's head? Do tell.

And as for organic? Bullshit. Nothing is organic unless it comes STRAIGHT FROM NATURE. And the meat we eat does. We see it, shoot it, clean it, store it, cook it. Nothing more. No processing. No preservatives besides frozen water.

Subject: Re: Hunting Fri Sep 02, 2011 4:19 pm

170 AVG wrote:

Niels wrote:

Hunting is bad. Yes. It is, why? Because there is enough food already in our stores. About 5000 years we have switched from hunting to farming, and that has had a reason. It is because hunting is prehistoric, in the past we HAD to hunt to survive. That's why people/animals hunt(ed), because there was no other way (blursong). Today, there are plenty of different ways, so try to get the most out of those, instead of the killing of innocent creatures. Even though I despite saying it, because I love animals (i fuck animals) and see humans as no more than "just" animals, I have to say the following: we live in 2011. Today, we stand above all other animals, even though biolically we're still animals, we are actually not animals anymore, our brain is so well developed that we don't have to hunt, escape from hunters, etc. anymore. We have the ability to build walls to protect ourselfs, we have the ability to comminucate, the ability to have farms, the ability to do research, we are so well developed that we don't have to hunt anymore. Hunting is fucking prehistoric. We stand above all other animals that have to hunt to survive. If you hunt, you're a fucking retarded, prehistoric animal. Is that what you are, Ein? I don't think so, you have a well, actually above-average, functioning brain, so use it and stop fucking hunting.

Now I'm going to eat my organic meat, that comes from a farm. Like it should, in 2011.

Here we go. You hammered the primer on the shell.

How do you think the chicken and pork in the store GETS there? It doesn't commit suicide. Someone had to kill it. Just because it wasn't you doesn't mean it didn't die somehow. If you knew how lamb was killed, you'd never eat it again.

And yeah, we carry down part of the tradition from original mankind. It's in our DNA still. Well, SOME of our DNA. Those of us who have ancestors who came from West Virginia in the 1930s and had to hunt to fucking survive.

And once again, if all you can think about is hurting the animal, give me a break. Once again, consider where that chicken you're having for dinner came from. Meat that comes from a farm was killed. Hunting is killing. What's the fucking difference besides the fact that hunting is just a slight bit harder than chopping off a chicken's head? Do tell.

And as for organic? Bullshit. Nothing is organic unless it comes STRAIGHT FROM NATURE. And the meat we eat does. We see it, shoot it, clean it, store it, cook it. Nothing more. No processing. No preservatives besides frozen water.

First off, I know how lambs are slaughtered. I don't eat lambs. Animals should have a nice life before being slaughtered. I eat only organic meat, which means animals had a good life before being slaughtered, which is, of course, in a horrible way, sadly. But there is no other way. I don't eat chicken meat either, because most of it is infected here, because of the over use of antiobiotics.
The urge to survive is still in our DNA, but hunting isn't required anymore to survive. That's one of your statements wiped out.
On the organic bullshit, please. Do some research, either or you have no idea what happens to the regular animals that you can find in a regular store, or you have no idea at all what organic food is all about.
Plus, I have never complained about actually hurting the animals. We just don't have to hunt anymore, it is the unnecessarily killing of animals.

Subject: Re: Hunting Fri Sep 02, 2011 4:28 pm

Not trying to get into this argument but, Niels, you said animals should have a nice life before being slaughtered. So you're saying that animals that live in the wild doesn't have a nice life before being slaughtered("hunted")?

Subject: Re: Hunting Fri Sep 02, 2011 4:30 pm

Winkley wrote:

Not trying to get into this argument but, Niels, you said animals should have a nice life before being slaughtered. So you're saying that animals that live in the wild doesn't have a nice life before being slaughtered("hunted")?

They had, but here I'm comparing organic meat to regular meat.
No, there is nothing wrong with the life hunted animals had, but it just is unnessecary killing of innocent animals.

Subject: Re: Hunting Fri Sep 02, 2011 4:51 pm

Organic is bullshit. You get NOTHING truly "organic" from the store. You get organic from the field. You get organic from shooting. I don't care what damned claims they make, not a single goddamned thing in the store they claim is organic is actually organic. And none of it compares to what you get from a long day afield.

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Subject: Re: Hunting Fri Sep 02, 2011 5:01 pm

170 AVG wrote:

Organic is bullshit. You get NOTHING truly "organic" from the store. You get organic from the field. You get organic from shooting. I don't care what damned claims they make, not a single goddamned thing in the store they claim is organic is actually organic. And none of it compares to what you get from a long day afield.

*facepalm*
i don't go to a regular store. i go to a special organic store to buy my food. look it up.

Subject: Re: Hunting Fri Sep 02, 2011 6:32 pm

It's still bullshit because they process it somehow. Every store processes their food products in some way, shape or form.

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Subject: Re: Hunting Fri Sep 02, 2011 6:36 pm

170 AVG wrote:

Organic is bullshit. You get NOTHING truly "organic" from the store. I don't care what damned claims they make, not a single goddamned thing in the store they claim is organic is actually organic. And none of it compares to what you get from a long day afield.

Well that much is true, but eating meat is still unnecessary, and I have no idea why humans still think it's acceptable.