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PostSubject: Who was in the wrong?   Tue Oct 05, 2010 8:15 pm

http://news.yahoo.com/s/yblog_upshot/20101005/pl_yblog_upshot/rural-tennessee-fire-sparks-conservative-ideological-debate

This has made me utterly furious. What do you guys think? Debate!
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PostSubject: Re: Who was in the wrong?   Tue Oct 05, 2010 8:21 pm

way2fail america
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PostSubject: Re: Who was in the wrong?   Tue Oct 05, 2010 8:28 pm

What a jerks are those!
Sitting while the home burns just to see the home owner suffer from the lost of his property, couldn't they help the poor man just a little?
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PostSubject: Re: Who was in the wrong?   Tue Oct 05, 2010 8:30 pm

They still shoulda done it. That's discrimination against farmers.
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PostSubject: Re: Who was in the wrong?   Tue Oct 05, 2010 8:53 pm

Oh whoa, what a heavy load of bs.
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PostSubject: Re: Who was in the wrong?   Tue Oct 05, 2010 11:14 pm

Jerks.
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PostSubject: Re: Who was in the wrong?   Wed Oct 06, 2010 12:13 am

I sorta agree that you need to pay the fees, but when a person's life is in danger you need to do what you can to try and save that person's life and home. I mean it is only $75, it is not like it is going to fix the global economic crisis.
Jerks.
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PostSubject: Re: Who was in the wrong?   Wed Oct 06, 2010 1:21 am

Firefighers are real heroes.
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PostSubject: Re: Who was in the wrong?   Wed Oct 06, 2010 3:20 pm

BunnyRabbits wrote:
I sorta agree that you need to pay the fees, but when a person's life is in danger you need to do what you can to try and save that person's life and home. I mean it is only $75, it is not like it is going to fix the global economic crisis.
Jerks.


You know what I can do with $75 dollars?

I CAN HIRE A PROSTITUTE WITH THAT KIND OF MONEY
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PostSubject: Re: Who was in the wrong?   Wed Oct 06, 2010 3:40 pm

I did a little research into Obion County, TN. The population is 31375. Here is the age pyramid:



If you figure that 20% of the 31375 own homes, that makes for approximately 6000 people that pay the $75 fee. Multiply the two together, and you come up with $450000. That is a lot of money, I don't care who you are. But if only one person misses it, give me a break. You take out 1/6000th or LESS than 2 ONE HUNDREDTHs of ONE percent. And, considering fire and rescue is supposed to be a public service already paid by taxes, which this $75 charge appears to not be considering it is optional, it is my opinion that the firefighters and the county are in the wrong in this situation. Not only is it morally wrong to let someone's house burn down when you are ready to fight it and possibly save the losses, it is also quite RIDICULOUS to make people pay $75 for fire service.

In addition, the per capita income for this county is $17000. $75 to a person who only makes $17000 is a hell of a lot of money.

There is one other final reason the county is in the wrong. By letting the person's house burn down and being royal dickheads about not saving it, chances are they just lost the money that was being paid by the family to the county. I am sure this total was more than $75 per year. Would you rather save the person's home and the tax income than make them move somewhere else and take their taxpaying abilities with them?

Not a smart decision by the firefighters or the county morally or practically.
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PostSubject: Re: Who was in the wrong?   Wed Oct 06, 2010 5:00 pm

The argument for the firefighters is that had he payed the $75, he would have only been paying it when he needed it, which is freeloading. It's like not buying an insurance plan untill you are about to die, saying that if the company doesn't give you the plan, you'll die, and then you'll just cancel it once you are better again, which defeats the whole point of insurance in the first place.

However, this man said that he would pay WHATEVER NECESSARY to extinguish the fire. That could have up to 1000 dollars, which in my opinion is what should have been done. There should be a very expensive fee for those who choose not to pay the $75 bucks a year. What is truly a shame though is that the fire protection isn't free.
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PostSubject: Re: Who was in the wrong?   Wed Oct 06, 2010 7:01 pm

Exactly. I mean, for Christ's sake, I always thought Fire and Police were public servants.

What's next, we're going to have to pay our police departments to protect us from home invasions?
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PostSubject: Re: Who was in the wrong?   Wed Oct 06, 2010 7:53 pm

Go to hell money greedy-ass idiots. Get a freaking heart.
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PostSubject: Re: Who was in the wrong?   Wed Oct 06, 2010 8:00 pm

Exactly mega. Do the right thing, deal with financial problems after.
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PostSubject: Re: Who was in the wrong?   Wed Oct 06, 2010 9:22 pm

The only way this could get worse was if the Fire Department started the fire in the first place Razz
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PostSubject: Re: Who was in the wrong?   Wed Oct 06, 2010 11:38 pm

That reminds me of Fahrenheit 451...

And those firemen are jerks
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PostSubject: Re: Who was in the wrong?   Thu Oct 07, 2010 7:53 am

Don't blame it on the firemen guys. They're only following orders. Blame it on the money hungry bastards of Northwest Tennessee.
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PostSubject: Re: Who was in the wrong?   Thu Oct 07, 2010 1:58 pm

Wow. What the fuck?

He should sue.
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PostSubject: Re: Who was in the wrong?   Thu Oct 07, 2010 2:05 pm

Einsteinean wrote:
Don't blame it on the firemen guys. They're only following orders. Blame it on the money hungry bastards of Northwest Tennessee.


That is exactly the reason ein.
The fireman who were there had exactly as much do do with this. Get fired from a job or possibly saving a life?
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PostSubject: Re: Who was in the wrong?   Thu Oct 07, 2010 6:17 pm

Einsteinean wrote:
Exactly. I mean, for Christ's sake, I always thought Fire and Police were public servants.

What's next, we're going to have to pay our police departments to protect us from home invasions?


Actually you only get one free call to 911 a year so if you have to call them more than once, than yes, yes you do.

Because the fire & police dpts. are public servicies paid for by taxes, they had no right to not save that mans house, especially over not paying a 75 dollar charge. Hell, I would have disobeyed my orders and put the mans house out anyway, it'll cost more to the economy to rebuild it. Plus all the negative publicity this will generate will probably keep people from moving there for quite some time. Would you live in a place where you have to pay 75 bucks yearly or the fire department will watch your house burn? That man has every right to sue the county for that.

Taxes should already cover the cost of these services. I admit that it was out of the jurisdiction of the fire fighters, but Jesus Christ man if your already at the scene with hoses set up and ready to go just put out the fire. In fact that would have been a better thing to do in terms of saving teh neighbors house as it would have probably prevented the fire from reaching his property in the first place, as the firefighters had watched the fire for a few minutes before it spread.

but i guess multi-million dollar bonus's to corrupt, ineffective executives was more important.
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