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PostSubject: Re: Hitler a great leader?   Fri Oct 01, 2010 4:50 pm

All Hitler did was sort out financial problems and help others Before he became a psychopath i reckon he done all those good deeds to Trick Germany to like him so he can kill The Jews
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PostSubject: Re: Hitler a great leader?   Fri Oct 01, 2010 6:45 pm

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Fordinand Porshe invented the Volkswagen. Adolf Hitler did not.. lmao. Wikipedia is retarded.


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PostSubject: Re: Hitler a great leader?   Fri Oct 01, 2010 10:25 pm

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Yeah I have one too.



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PostSubject: Re: Hitler a great leader?   Fri Oct 01, 2010 10:26 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Hitler a great leader?   Fri Oct 01, 2010 11:49 pm

Invisifly2 wrote:
Ok, we all know that Hitler is the psychopath that killed millions of Jews during the holocaust and started WW2, and I'm not trying to offend anybody with this thread, or deny that, only have an interesting debate.

False.

Imperial Ninja wrote:
Yes he would've, if he didn't start the war he would've done great things for Germany. But that didn't happen and Hitler was a shitty person.

See above.

Einsteinean wrote:
Yeah, he would've been a great leader and perhaps led Germany to be a greater world power, had he not tried to take over Europe through ruthless and vile means. We might hold Germany differently right now if he hadn't gone bad, to say the least.

We're fine with Germany now.

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All Hitler did was sort out financial problems and help others Before he became a psychopath i reckon he done all those good deeds to Trick Germany to like him so he can kill The Jews

Are you kidding me?
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PostSubject: Re: Hitler a great leader?   Sat Oct 02, 2010 12:26 am

PandaSheep wrote:
Quixotic wrote:
Fordinand Porshe invented the Volkswagen. Adolf Hitler did not.. lmao. Wikipedia is retarded.


I have 3 sources:
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I have those sources too buddy.
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PostSubject: Re: Hitler a great leader?   Sat Oct 02, 2010 9:51 am

JesterDon's logic just owned you guys
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PostSubject: Re: Hitler a great leader?   Sat Oct 02, 2010 10:14 am

Well, by hold Germany differently I meant they might be more powerful economically than they are right now.
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PostSubject: Re: Hitler a great leader?   Sat Oct 02, 2010 10:56 am

His invasion of Poland is what set ww2 off, Unless you know of some-other thing, in which case i'd like to know as I like to find new info out.
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PostSubject: Re: Hitler a great leader?   Sat Oct 02, 2010 11:38 am

Well, the "cause" of WWII is complicated. You could say it was the Treaty of Versailles, which is commonly known as one of the weakest and worst peace treaties ever. You could also say it was Hitler's invasion of Poland, which might have been indirectly caused by the Treaty of Versailles. Personally I think the treaty started everything that started WWII, so it was the cause.

In any case, we always talk about WWII in the past tense, where, in all reality, it's still going on. Japan and the former Soviet Union (Russia) have never signed a formal peace treaty. Kinda similar to how the Korean War is still going n. Yeah, they signed a cease fire, but they didn't formally end the war. It's not really important to this particular topic, but I thunk it kind of interesting.
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PostSubject: Re: Hitler a great leader?   Sat Oct 02, 2010 12:05 pm

yeah the treaty sucked, but Hitler did manage to increase the size of his country without setting a war off (by "liberating" the Austrians", but they did actually welcome him) and fix Germany's economy. He didn't need Poland also.
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PostSubject: Re: Hitler a great leader?   Sat Oct 02, 2010 12:12 pm

And that's where he went wrong. Invading Poland was possibly the worst decision in human history in terms of consequences to all of humanity.
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PostSubject: Re: Hitler a great leader?   Sat Oct 02, 2010 1:18 pm

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Hitler got to his position because he created fear. And hate.


There are many reasons Hitler rose to power, the main one being that Germany was desperate for a good leader who would emphasize and bring out nationalist support for Germany after being left in ruins from World War I. Hitler simply chose the Jews as a scapegoat for all of their problems due to personal grudges he held from childhood. So yes, I agree, by creating hate he rose to what he became. However, had he not done the whole scapegoat idea, he still would have been very powerful, simply due to his amazing skills of ruling and public speaking.

Creating hate makes you powerful.
Public speaking doesn't. If people don't believe in what you say, they won't follow oyu.
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PostSubject: Re: Hitler a great leader?   Sat Oct 02, 2010 1:19 pm

PandaSheep wrote:
Quixotic wrote:
Fordinand Porshe invented the Volkswagen. Adolf Hitler did not.. lmao. Wikipedia is retarded.


I have 3 sources:
1. School (even 2 classes said so, World Languages back in like, 7th grade, and Social Studies)
2. Computer
3. BRAIN

OK, even if hitler did want a car company created for the German people, he wouldn't of started it, somebody else would've.... and that somebody was Ferdinand Porshe. Rolling Eyes
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PostSubject: Re: Hitler a great leader?   Sat Oct 02, 2010 1:20 pm

its simply called fund somebody to do it for you ^
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PostSubject: Re: Hitler a great leader?   Sat Oct 02, 2010 10:47 pm

Saying that Hitler invading Poland caused World War II is like saying that an explosion at a power plant due to a gas leak was the fault of the spark that ignited it.
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PostSubject: Re: Hitler a great leader?   Sun Oct 03, 2010 9:51 am

He made a good leader because he overtook a country at its weakest and thats what great leaders do. Whether or not he was a good person is not this debate. So there you go.
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PostSubject: Re: Hitler a great leader?   Mon Oct 04, 2010 8:00 am

Last year in English, I said Hitler was a good leader. Everyone assumed I meant he was a good leader as in a good leader, someone who is good, but I meant good at leading, not at being a person. It didnt go over that well, lets put it this way...I am German and everyone in that class knows it. -__-
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PostSubject: Re: Hitler a great leader?   Wed Oct 06, 2010 6:04 am

Invisifly2 wrote:
its simply called fund somebody to do it for you ^

Exactly. Hitler basically forced Porshe to make the Volkswagon to help their economy.
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