Hitler a great leader?

Subject: Hitler a great leader? Wed Sep 29, 2010 6:32 pm

Ok, we all know that Hitler is the psychopath that killed millions of Jews during the holocaust and started WW2, and I'm not trying to offend anybody with this thread, or deny that, only have an interesting debate.

The topic of the debate is:

If Hitler had not of started WW2 and the Holocaust, would he have gone down in history as one of the worlds greatest leaders?
EDIT: and why?

Discuss.

Subject: Re: Hitler a great leader? Wed Sep 29, 2010 6:35 pm

He was a great public speaker. Unfortunately, his incredible leadership skills were for the wrong with millions of innocent lives ended. So I say yes.

Subject: Re: Hitler a great leader? Wed Sep 29, 2010 6:37 pm

I guess so.

Subject: Re: Hitler a great leader? Wed Sep 29, 2010 7:12 pm

Funny, me and my brother were having this conversation the other day. Yes he was, sadly, he used it for the wrong reasons.

Subject: Re: Hitler a great leader? Wed Sep 29, 2010 7:53 pm

Yes he would've, if he didn't start the war he would've done great things for Germany. But that didn't happen and Hitler was a shitty person.

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Yeah, he would've been a great leader and perhaps led Germany to be a greater world power, had he not tried to take over Europe through ruthless and vile means. We might hold Germany differently right now if he hadn't gone bad, to say the least.

Subject: Re: Hitler a great leader? Wed Sep 29, 2010 9:00 pm

I think he just needed a hug; the guy had some serious problems. As a Jew, I must say that even if Hitler hadn't gone gassing us, he still may have done something of equal or perhaps greater terrible tragedy. It's inevitable, he was a nutcase.

I guess he did have some valuable ideas though. None of this would have happened if Hitler was into wanking rather than genocide.

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Subject: Re: Hitler a great leader? Wed Sep 29, 2010 9:06 pm

He had potential to be a great leader.
He knew how to take control of troubles, and knew where to put his soldier.

Subject: Re: Hitler a great leader? Wed Sep 29, 2010 9:28 pm

Subject: Re: Hitler a great leader? Wed Sep 29, 2010 10:01 pm

He was a great leader anyway, he just did bad things with his leadership.

Subject: Re: Hitler a great leader? Wed Sep 29, 2010 11:12 pm

He was smart. He knew what happens if you do this and if you do that. In simpler terms, he knew how the game works.

Subject: Re: Hitler a great leader? Thu Sep 30, 2010 12:08 am

I would say so.

Subject: Re: Hitler a great leader? Thu Sep 30, 2010 10:16 am

No. Certainly not. Hitler got to his position because he created fear. And hate. Hate for Jews, he blamed Jews for everything, without his statements, he wouldn't have gotten nowhere. Besides that, without the economical crisis in the late 20s he wouldn't have gotten nowhere either.

Subject: Re: Hitler a great leader? Thu Sep 30, 2010 2:28 pm

He created a car company and he most certainly was not a great leader.

Subject: Re: Hitler a great leader? Thu Sep 30, 2010 4:00 pm

MrMega wrote:

He created a car company and he most certainly was not a great leader.

I believe you are talking about Hemlar?

Subject: Re: Hitler a great leader? Thu Sep 30, 2010 5:19 pm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volkswagen
Press Ctrl+F and type in Hitler.

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^Interesting...

Subject: Re: Hitler a great leader? Thu Sep 30, 2010 7:57 pm

Fordinand Porshe invented the Volkswagen. Adolf Hitler did not.. lmao. Wikipedia is retarded.

Subject: Re: Hitler a great leader? Thu Sep 30, 2010 10:35 pm

Niels wrote:

Hitler got to his position because he created fear. And hate.

There are many reasons Hitler rose to power, the main one being that Germany was desperate for a good leader who would emphasize and bring out nationalist support for Germany after being left in ruins from World War I. Hitler simply chose the Jews as a scapegoat for all of their problems due to personal grudges he held from childhood. So yes, I agree, by creating hate he rose to what he became. However, had he not done the whole scapegoat idea, he still would have been very powerful, simply due to his amazing skills of ruling and public speaking.

Subject: Re: Hitler a great leader? Fri Oct 01, 2010 4:10 pm

Quixotic wrote:

Fordinand Porshe invented the Volkswagen. Adolf Hitler did not.. lmao. Wikipedia is retarded.

I think you need some reading done.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reliability_of_Wikipedia

Going on topic, who knows. He had some ups and downs, apart from killing Jews and starting WW2.